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Published on April 21, 2009 By Szadowsz In WOM Ideas

It has been suggested we get several types of cavalry (for example, bears), but how much detail should we get for said bears? should we get just one type of bear? should we settle for one type of bear?

Do we want variants like space, polar, grizzly/brown, black and koala? why do people call koalas bears when they are marsupials?

NTJEDI

Probably even a bigger question would be should the mount(bear; etc;) continue fighting once the rider has died and vise versa??

/end shameless bear plug

 

anywhoo I suggest that maybe there is one real type but said cavalry gets a bonus depending on where it is recruit to simulate different types - for instance if you recruiit bear cavalry from  snowy regions they get an advantage there or something


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on Jun 19, 2009

I had a poppy once.  but it certainly did not have a cock...

But seriously, a few generations of selective breeding and training could turn a black bear from a very fierce creature to a very cuddly creature.  I'd have to agree that if you have access to bears, you can get whatever you want really.  So it should just be "bears" as a resource.  (well, I guess you could argue that if you have a training pen somewhere, bear resource would have to be moved to the place of training, where it could be turned into another type of bear resource)

on Jun 19, 2009

Wintersong
Let them make a solid system for release and then increase it through expansions and mods made by users.
I have no high hopes for mods. Saying "Don't bother with mounts, we'll mod them in" feels like saying "Don't bother with headlights, we'll tape flashlights onto the car" to me.

Addenum:

landisaurus

Heretic! Where's your bear?!

on Jun 19, 2009

Edit: Double-post. Sorry.

on Jun 19, 2009

right here!

 

but seriously, I'm riding on him or something.   He doesn't fit in the tiny 100x100 avatar shot for this one

 

He'll be back in my avatar by the time the beta comes out (especially if the alpha comes out with no sign of bears and I have to just back on the band wagon.... or should I say, "bear wagon"     but seriously... a wagon pulled by bears would totally rock. )

also, if you look at the other Elemental: War of Magic forum of which I am aware (Elementalgame.info) then you'll notice that I am there still proudly displaying a bear avatar.  I just felt like hanging out on the Master of Magic fan boat for a bit, since that is why I originally showed up in the forum.   I've been creating so many awesome avatars over the last 4 hours, that I couldn't help but change mine.  (it was a tough fight too.   because I really want that flaming yeti too.  I'll someday have to make a " 'saurus' type character avatar, riding a bear with a pet flaming yeti"-avatar

on Jun 24, 2009

Goodmoring all

If you include non bacis mounts, thought should be given to semi-sentient mounts, and sentient mounts... archers mounted on centaurs carrying pikes... pegasi. . . unicorns. . .  lesser dragons, and griffens, 

unlike horses many of thses make good additionally interesting contibutions to game play.  Pegasi could carry a wounded hero out of combat, lesser dragons and griffens would add additional attacks and continue to fight without their mounts. Unicorns provide magic defence. . . each would have it's own behavour in the event of lose of rider, or wounding of rider.

Thoughts?

best wishes everybody

on Jun 24, 2009

Sentient mounts saunds alarmingly close to the "raging" debate, but I definately want to see some wierd things in there. Maybe a "mind link" between mount and rider: they are able to act as a single, co-ordinated entity, but if one dies, so does the other....

Welcome to the forums, BTW! (Stay clear of Luckmann: he's a bearist sympathiser. )

on Jun 25, 2009

Luckmann

I have no high hopes for mods. Saying "Don't bother with mounts, we'll mod them in" feels like saying "Don't bother with headlights, we'll tape flashlights onto the car" to me.
Yeah but make sure that you don't ignore that unless cataclism, Stardock will surely make extra content for patches and expansion(s).

on Jun 25, 2009

@robbie.price:   stardock confirmed there would be no sentient mounts.   so without modding centaur mounts are out of the question.   the others might be fine though (I'm not sure how many mounts they plan to put in the game)

on Jun 25, 2009

(I'm not sure how many mounts they plan to put in the game)

My guess (note that this is just a guess) is that there will be very few: Magical creatures will be treated differently than reources, according to Brad, and there are not terribly many real-world creatures that can be functionally ridden w/o looking silly to a lot of people.

on Jun 25, 2009

Beg pardon, but isn't 'mount' a really mistaken word for a sentient creature that might go into battle with you on its back?

It seems to me that the relationships start 'down' on the centaur end where the paired units are a warlike analog to a figure skating duo, and towards the other end you find things like Anne McCaffrey's take on 'dragon riding' and the symbs in John Varley's Ophiuchi Hotline stories. (And I mean no disrespect to figure skaters. That's a damned butch sport, costumes and scores aside.)

p. s. Please forgive if you're a SciFi-vs-Fantasy person. I'm a fan of the idea that SF=speculative fiction (and I wish I were a good enough lit guy to try tackling the current wiki page's non-coverage of Delany's essays on the subject).

on Jun 26, 2009

GW Swicord
It seems to me that the relationships start 'down' on the centaur end where the paired units are a warlike analog to a figure skating duo


that is an exclent point troops could form fighting pairs, and although a centair is NOT a mount, the fighting pair just happen to fight with one onthe others back. . . .

ya ok i'm streaching it, but nice quotable quote, figure skating

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